Rant? Tirade? Controversy? Can of Worms? You decide

topic posted Mon, August 6, 2007 - 2:47 PM by  ђελŧђεr
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I am curious as to the opinions of others as to what is shaping up to be a fairly controversial topic. I have not been blind to the Autism Rights movement, though it has been pointed out to me in a rather forceful and ugly fashion of late, and though its presentation was unpleasant, it does not devalue the merits of the movement itself, and so I feel it is fair to give it some thought.

This is what Wikipedia has to say on the subject: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auti...s_movement

There basically seems to be a divide between autistic individuals who are able to represent themselves and those who seek to represent them. Autistic groups see groups such as Cure Autism Now, and therapies such as Applied Behavioral Analysis as a threat to autistic culture because they seek to remove the autism from the person. Individuals who identify themselves as autistic, however, feel that autism is such a pervasive part of their lives, that to remove autism would be to remove who they are and they do not feel that "curing" autism is correct.

Me, I'm divided, of course. I have recently been accused of standing in the way of the autistic rights movement, simply by virtue of being a parent of an autistic child. I suppose there is an air of "I could never understand what it is to walk a mile in their shoes" to that, and while I certainly see the validity of that sentiment, no one else knows what it's like to walk a mile in my son's shoes, either, and he can't share that experience with anyone, because he can't communicate it. So while I can't say with any certainty what his world is like from inside his head, I live with him, and see him every day and know what his personality is like better than anyone else in his life. Adult autistics who have never met him may share much with him, but they cannot claim to know him.

And I've seen the posters for Cure Autism Now, and we've been through that desperation phase when we were grasping at straws, willing to listen to any snake oil salesman who had convincing testimonials about how their patented technique or methodology had "cured" hundreds of kids. And I've given money to institutions of learning, in particular the ABA school that my son attended in which I felt he had the greatest number of triumphs language-wise. But I've also seen him struggling, unfocused, frustrated. He doesn't head-bang, fortunately, but he has melt-downs occasionally, and there are some stims that give him comfort, and at those times I want to allow him to stim, and melt into his own world and just be himself. I want him to be himself, and I accept that he cannot be separated from his autism. It is a part of who he is and I love him. Autism is a part of my life forever.

However. He cannot communicate, and at almost six years old, we are still wiping feces off of the bathroom walls. Does wanting my child to learn to read or speak or use language in some capacity make me "pro-cure"? Does wanting him toilet trained make me "pro-cure"? Where is the line drawn between trying to educate and raise a child with a disability and trying to eradicate autism from the world entirely? And where is the line drawn between autistics in the autistic rights movement who say "don't call us disabled" and people who are genuinely disabled? You can't tell me my son isn't disabled, and if the state ever got word of that, there goes the half-way decent education they're grudgingly agreeing to pay for anyway.

What I guess I like least of all is that I'm put on the defensive about the whole thing because I'm a parent, not an autistic. Everything I've read has been from the position of autistics who can speak for themselves and it seems to resent people like me, who just want what's best for our children. It seems to think that all we want is for them to fit in and be little stepford children. I have news for you, sweetheart, it's the 1950's anymore. Things have changed. Freaks and geeks are welcome in my world.

Sorry, I know this is really more of a ramble than a coherent question or anything. I guess I kind of needed to vent, but I am also quite interested in what others have to say on the subject, particularly other parents who have had run-ins with autistic rights movers (as I recently have), and especially adult autistics themselves willing to contribute, on both sides of the autism rights divide. I know this little tirade may come across as a bit abrasive, but I am looking into what I really think about it all and am forming opinions. I need as much input as I can get my hands on. Thanks so much!
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    Hey, Heather. Don't worry about what other people think. My son is 9 now, he was diagnosed @ 2 1/2. In the last 7 years my views have changed a little bit on different subjects pertaining to Autism. I find that since it's a SPECTRUM, we should deal with it as such. We all know that if you put a dozen children with ASD in the same room, they dont act exactly the same, right? they're all different. So Ibelieve its subjective. SOME people beleive the snake oil salesman because theyve seen results that way, some people haven't, so they dont. I personaly have found, with MY son, that ABA works..for MY son...others may not have seen the same results in their children...that doesn't mean these things dont work. The key, ( I beleive ) is to put your faith and energy into the CHILD, be true to your childs needs. Do everything you possibly can to help get along in society without losing the things that make them the unique gifts from God that they are. Society has a certain obligation to learn about them, too. It should'nt be our jobs as parents or teachers to try to disguise them as something they aren't. My boy says ,"oooweeeeooowweeeoowee" when he's stimming. I personally NEVER tell him not to do it. Why? because we dicovered at an early age that he only makes that sound when he's happy. He never does it when hes sad, angry or upset. ONLY when hes happy. As you may have guessed i've gotten all kinds of looks from people. Some smile sweetly @ him, some furrow their brow in confusion or annoyance...I USED to care what they thought, and I'd let it make me angry, or even cry... until I focused on Drake instead of other people. He is happy. He is unique.He feels Wonderful when he makes that sound.Hes MINE. THAT is whats important. Has the stimming kept him from learning? No. Has it caused people to want to learn more about Autism? YES!! Do what you feel is right until it doesn't feel right anymore, then try something else. Your child will show you by their progress if its working...then when they are old enough to decide how they want to be viewed as an individual, they can decide. As a parent, you'll know what to do, just trust YOURSELF & YOUR CHILD. After all...Nobody knows them better or loves them more than you do. Best wishes to you and your one- of -a- kind little one.
  • Okay, I can't quite claim to be the perfect success story, nor the model of Autistic learning, though I am a young Autistic who can read and type proficiently in English, speak with few defects in the same language, and display an extent of intelligibility in Japanese (self taught). These accomplishments, of course, were done without A.B.A., and with no help from the organizations to which I will collectively refer as "Kill Autistics Now".

    Of course, when I was diagnosed at the age of two, I was not so promising; my vocal development stopped dead for a little while, and I was found to have a "low-average" I.Q. Although this delay was temporary, it took me until I was twelve to learn how to read. Of course, no one liked to wait so long. My older brother screamed at me, and my mother expressed bitter disappointment. When I was left the hell alone, however, I stared at a bookcase, and started reading the spines of the books, much to my own surprise. I did so by using the names of the letters, which I never memorized until I borrowed a child's toy for a couple minutes (and I taught myself Kana using something similar).

    If I were put through A.B.A., I wouldn't know how to read; I'd only know how to do pet tricks, like making eye-contact and speaking with "proper" intonation. "Make eye-contact. Good Aspie~! Now speak. Oh, too monotonous (zap)." Even if I were to have been put through that hell for the express purpose of learning to read and write, I would have ended up illiterate and traumatized. Indeed, it would have made me fulfill the darkest prophecies the Child Study Team had for me.

    Now, I do realize that some behaviours associated with Autism aren't so desirable. Self injury and the flinging of feces come to mind. There's a myth that these traits belong only to the hopeless sort, who will never have a future and never contribute to society. However, I know for a fact that Autistics who injure themselves to any degree can, assuming the right communicative skills, tell you the circumstances in which they do so, and reasons why. Although it's either profoundly difficult or impossible to substitute self-injurious habits for healthier ones, it's usually possible to avoid the circumstances and causes.

    Now, the flinging of feces is an interesting matter, and one on which I've had to do a little research. Although many A.B.A. vultures would claim it as proof of the necessity of their crimes and atrocities, they completely ignore the articulate, productive people who flung feces themselves when they were young. Unfortunately, since professionals often choose not to work with Autistics, due to the fact that fear is good for business, these people haven't really been heard, and comprehensive treatments, barely devised.

    This does not, however, mean that parents can not work with Autistics to get through these difficulties, though there's one little snag: parents have been so adversarial to the self advocacy groups from their conception that it's slightly unreasonable to expect them to just go off the defensive; you have to make it quite clear that your intentions are NOT to bring back the ovens, and you have to clearly repudiate Kill Autistics Now, first.

    Please pardon any grammatical errors or typos in my post; I have a vicious headache, so I'm in a bit of a hurry to send this off.
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      I totally agree that some people take things a little too far when they get passionate about stuff...God & children seem to have a way of running off with our sense of reason. We get so wrapped up in a cause that we sometimes cross that line into "The Darkside" without realizing what were doing. I thought (at one time) that Autism Speaks was a great charity...then one day I heard an interview where a mother of an Autistic child say she thought about driving her car off of the George Washington bridge ( with her autistic daughter in it) because of her daughters Autism...even more infuriating to me was that her moment of clarity came in the form of compassion for her non-autistic daughter...as if the typical childs life were more important. I'm not sure i'll ever get over hearing something like that come out of ANY parents mouth. She should be ashamed of herself for saying something so awful..I can't even beleive they put her crazy a** in front of a microphone, let alone a camera! Then that guy from C.A.N...he loves to make it sound like Autism robs us of our children..like its some horrible curse on us all and it must be cured. Like life is over for the child (and of course, the parents) as soon as they get the diagnosis. Total B.S.! What is cured? How will I know my son is "cured"? When he speaks intelligently? He already does..yet he IS autistic. When he starts lying to my face like "NORMAL" kids do? Because he doesn't lie to me, yet he has autism. Does it mean he's cured when he starts experimenting with drugs, alcohol, sex, gangs.. disrespecting his family members, & himself?stealing?..The way "NORMAL" people do?....WHY THE HELL WOULD I WANT A "NORMAL" CHILD?!?! I THANK GOD EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT HE CHOSE ME TO BE THE KEEPER OF THE MOST PRECIOUS THING I'VE EVER KNOWN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. I LOVE HIM AND ACCEPT HIM JUST THE WAY GOD MADE HIM. TO ME, HE'S PERFECT. I personally can not stand by ANY organization that believes(& wants me to beleive) that my child is a mistake that needs to be cured or corrected. Thats why I said do whats best for YOUR OWN child...and educate people when you can..People fear and shun what they don't understand because it's easy...but if you can get people to TRULY understand, they naturally begin to care. And if they don't....screw'em! Who needs 'em??!! Peace be with you.
  • You know, I first wrote this post almost a month ago, and since then have done some digging into autism rights, in particular into autistic blogs. There is a very large community of autistics and autism activists who blog like crazy and there is a wealth of information from them. Much of what they blog about rubbed me the wrong way at first, because it's opening stance seems to assume that autism parents are the "enemy", when nothing could be farther from the truth. Occasionally an angry blogger may post that they do NOT intend this angry blog to be intended for ALL autism parents, just the ones who are seeking to "cure" their children, a category I am satisfied that I do not fall into.

    I agree with them on many topics, from "biomed" (i.e. biomedical or alternative interventions) to the myth of mercury in vaccinations, to the position that this group of individuals can get services to help them when they are, in fact, disabled in certain ways by their conditions, and still have complete rights as human beings and Americans. Where I differ with some of them is in our stance on ABA. Many of them seem to have the same opinion of it as Dr. Awkward does, that it is on level with military-style or even animal training. We shied away from it at first because we heard those same comparison's made, but when we finally decided that our boy was ready for a much firmer hand towards his blossoming language skills, we chose ABA and we have never been sorry. If anything, we felt that he should have gone to an ABA program earlier. Either our ABA experience was not as "horrific" as is typical for ABA, or the horror stories of it have been MUCH exaggerated. Either way, we found the ABA school our boy attended for only one year to be kind and gentle and very nurturing. In that program, his vocabulary exploded and his verbal apraxia diminished considerably.

    Anyway, the point is that this last month has been an educational journey for me, one of delving into the world of many vocal autism advocates (although ironically some are technically "non-verbal") and has brought me to push my son even farther than we had thought was possible before, to fantastic results. It has also forced me to look at some of my own behaviors and beliefs and examine them to determine what I truly think and cause me to form my own opinions based on what I'm hearing now and my own experiences rather than just taking some therapist or administrator's word on it. I am still seeking information and forming opinions, as I suspect I will for many many years to come.

    On top of all that, and in response to D'sMommy's comments on the Autism Speaks "Autism Everyday" video, this was found on the blog of one of the autism rights activists, AutismDiva. It's called "Neurotypicalism Everyday"

    www.youtube.com/watch

    I think it's hilarious because of my two kids, I am forced to confess that my NT kid is generally more of a challenge than the autistic kid. Anyway, it made me laugh.
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      That clip was hilarious....Can't something be done to help these children?!!lol. As I said we must be careful as we navigate this information we find on Autism... I know for a fact my son became autistic because of vacinations... and unless youve seen it happen with your own eyes,its very easy to call it a MYTH. My boy was talking & developing just fine untill he got his 2nd & 3rd battery of shots,got very sick and lost all speech & communication skills he'd been building...he wasnt born that way, and mercury is a neuro-poison. I dont claim to know everything...like I said its SUBJECTIVE.
  • Re: Rant? Tirade? Controversy? Can of Worms? You decide

    Fri, September 14, 2007 - 11:44 PM
    Well, I remember, being put on a lot of different crazy pills, which had the affect of actually destabilizing me.

    As of mid-middle school, I've refused to take any more of these wonder pills...

    A lot of modern medicine is just a bunch of people trying to get you to pay out the ass, for a "Solution" to a "Problem"
  • Every child is unique and every child with Autism is unique. Not all families of your "average" child raise their children the same way with the same values conforming to the same set of beliefs, and parents of children with Autism should not have to follow one parenting philosophy either.

    In our house, we meet in the middle. We want our son to be HAPPY. We don't want our son to be banging his head in the wall or crying inconsolably. That is not the quality of life we want for him and I seriously DOUBT that is what he or any kid wants!

    I don't care if he has tics, repeats things, I don't care if he does things in a different manner..I find it enlightening to see his way of doing things...He feels safe, loved and secure...

    You most likely know your child best, autistic or not. Just keep reading, try to meet in the middle somewhere, help him communicate and try to learn what his cues mean...

    When our son was 6, everything was a struggle..grooming, eating, forget about going to the store...but today he is doing amazing. Through HIS effort, the doctors, the whole family and his school...he is still uniquely beautiful, but we have peace in our home and he is a happy child. We haven't forced him to do anything...we open doors for him.

    He started Tae Kwon doe a few monthes back, he loves it. He doens't have to talk to anyone...he gets structure and excercise...the whole time there is a big grin on his face. Every night we are there I sit in amazement at how far he has come.

    It was a lot of changing our expectations, our manner of discipline and just sheer effort on both sides to get to know eachother better.

    Don't pay attention to any of the political noise. You have plenty to deal with as it is without people forcing opinions on you from either side. I doubt you have the time anyway!

    One day at a time!

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